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1803 flintlock US rifle stock Harpers Ferry For Sale


1803 flintlock US rifle stock Harpers Ferry

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1803 flintlock US rifle stock Harpers Ferry:
$537

Available is a very nice original antique model 1803 United States Harpers Ferry rifle stock. This rifle is missing the lock and barrel and sideplate. It still has the original brass triggerguard, forestock band, forestock barrel retaining key, patchbox with all but one screw and buttplate. Nice original piece and extremely rare. A great piece for someone looking to restore another rifle with a problem stock. Great original finish and patina, "in the black" and right out of an attic. The model 1803 was the very first United Stated issued rifle. These were made in Harpers Ferry VA. Stock has original and clear inspector marks on the left side of the stock, as well as assembly marks inside the patchbox lid. Patchbox release works great. good luck! Shipping cost to be confirmed once destination known.

On Apr-27-11 at 18:12:55 PDT, seller added the following information:

Just to be clear to everyone, the Model 1803 rifles were made in two series but are both referred to as "Model 1803". The first from 1803 to 1807, and the second series, 7 years later, from 1814 to 1820. I believe that this stock is from the second series, which accomodated a 36-inch barrel and not a 33-inch barrel although some of the earliest second series did have 33-inch barrels. The stock measures 12-7/8 inches from the face of breach to the end of forearm, and 28-7/8 inches overall from buttplate to end of forearm. Therefore if you are making a reproduction barrel and lock, or purchasing a reproduction barrel and lock, or using an original barrel and lock, you will probably want the second series length. However I have not confirmed this I am only going by stock length and have not tried to fit a barrel. I believe the rear lock shape and triggerguard shape have subtle differences on the first series also, which further leads me to believe this is the second series. Best of luck!

On Apr-28-11 at 15:50:30 PDT, seller added the following information:

I noticed that I did not include photos of the overall left side of the stock and until I can figure out if I can add more than the maximum allowed 12 photos I may not be able to add any more. Note that the left side of the forestock is in good complete condition with nosignificant problems other than a tiny amount of wood missing around a barrel pin hole (it was pinned in addition to the barrel key) and a hairline crack about 4 to 5 inches long from this same hole area - overall not bad at all and still attractive. Left side of the butt is very nice also and a similar condition to the right side of the butt, with only a couple of minor scratches that are not very noticeable at all, still retaining finish and dark patina. The left side of the butt has the usual raised carved cheekpiece. Overall the only significant defect overall on the piece is a small piece of wood missing above the lock mortise above the forward portion of the lock. This was a common problem on guns of this era being a weak point of the wood stock.

Also note that the front 1-3/8 to 1-1/2 inchof the forestock appers to bespliced onto the rest of the stock The originalforestock brass band covers the splice on the outside. It was absolutely made this way and all of the woodis original. I don't know if all of the model 1803'sweremade this way, or if that may mean that this stock could have been made using a shorter leftover blank from the first series (in other word using a stock blank made between 1803-1807 that may have remained unused initially). The first series(1803-1807) which has a slightly shorter stock -interesting feature. This shortforestock splice is 100% original on this piece. If this was made using an older blank from the first series, that may indicate that this could be one of the earliest madein the second series, perhaps 1814 or 1815. The fact that this stock does not exactly match either the first or second series inlength may be another clue of it possibly being a transition piece between the two series. As noted above some of the early second series had the shorter barrel. A further study of the inspector initials may help determine a more accurate timeframe.

On May-02-11 at 08:02:40 PDT, seller added the following information:

One last note - I really hope that whomever succeeds in buying this resists the temptation toclean it (at all), or shine up the brass,because this type of patina is real history and gone forever once removed.


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